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what's up guys ryan sprague here and i'm

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summerskies thank you and keep looking

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up

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this is somewhere in the skies with ryan

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sprague

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the last few years have brought us some

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of the most well-documented ufo

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incidents to ever be released officially

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by the united states government and

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military

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we learned of the now famous navy ufo

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videos and accompanying incidents that

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occurred off the east and west coasts

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we even learned of a dramatic chase of a

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ufo over the coast of catalina island

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which has been coined the nimitz

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encounter

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one of those witnesses was lieutenant

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commander alex dietrich

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she remained anonymous since the story

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broke but has since gone public to back

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up her fellow co-top gun pilot commander

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david fravor on what they experienced on

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november 14 2004 over the pacific ocean

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so in november of 2004 off the coast of

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southern california we were preparing

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for our deployment

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running training exercises and when we

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launched anticipating going to a

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particular airspace and running these uh

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training exercises we were interrupted

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uh for a real world

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intercept we were vectored to

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try to get a visual tally on something

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that another ship in our carrier strike

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group was picking up on their radar so

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aircrew and two aircraft so each

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aircraft is a cockpit with a pilot and a

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weapon systems officer

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and so among the four of us we picked up

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this

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unidentified aerial phenomena

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the incident over the water was

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mysterious enough

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but it didn't end there

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according to commander fravor something

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else was going on in the water as well

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what drew us to it is there was it was a

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perfectly calm blue ocean day no white

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caps and there was white water the white

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water was kind of in the shape of you

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can call it a cross but about the size

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of a 737 so take the 737 drop it you'll

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look at it from the top and point it to

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the east and we're down to the south of

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and the tic tac was moving around that

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white water so we didn't see if there

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was something below the surface because

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you know if it's 10 15 feet below the

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surface it's still going to cause the

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waves those swells to break over the top

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of it like a seamount so we didn't we

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didn't see anything below we just know

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there was something causing that water

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to break over the top of it on a

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perfectly

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like a pristine spectacular san diego

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day is what it was when we turned around

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we couldn't find the disturbance in the

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water anymore it was gone

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so you know normally if it's a real sea

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mount it's going to be there until you

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know god removes it

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with an unprecedented amount of access

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to the witnesses to this event and many

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others encountered by the us navy we've

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only scratched the surface of what's

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going on over our skies and in our

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oceans when looking at the extensive

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data compiled by different ufo research

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organizations throughout the years a

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staggering amount of these cases have

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occurred above or even in the world's

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oceans lakes and seas

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reports have dated far back beyond the

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modern ufo era to include even the likes

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of christopher columbus who in his

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personal journals while sailing to the

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new world experienced a rash of strange

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lights emerging from the water darting

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into the air and following his voyage

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the most dramatic of these events found

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all three ships being swarmed by glowing

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orbs of light

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that almost seemed to be guiding them

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coincidentally or not so coincidentally

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columbus and his crew would discover the

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new world only hours after this strange

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or we have the now famous shag harbor

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incident where some sort of craft

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crashed into the murky depths of the

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small fishing village waters

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investigated by many official bodies but

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no object ever being recovered

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because of the amount of cases of what

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has been coined unidentified submerged

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objects or usos it may come of no

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surprise that many crews of ships and in

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particular submarines have witnessed a

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great many of these incidents as well

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one particular sighting occurred at the

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end of the 1980s and involved a united

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states nuclear submarine whose mission

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was to patrol the waters ahead of a nasa

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space shuttle launch

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not only did they witness a strange

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triangular craft but many other similar

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objects were witnessed in the days

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before and after the incident across the

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united states

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the account was documented in the book

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military encounters with

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extraterrestrials the real war of the

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worlds by frank joseph

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and as we'll see these kinds of

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sightings have been taking place for

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decades in seas and oceans around the

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world with some suggestions that these

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craft might be responsible for some of

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the very real sub-aquatic disasters of

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the 20th century

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and this once more points ufo

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researchers to the depths of the waters

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as opposed to the reaches of outer space

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according to the report courtesy of a

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crew member of the us navy submarine the

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uss memphis they were around 150 miles

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off the coast of florida when they

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experienced an event that would shake

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the very foundations of their beliefs

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the main witness would state that their

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mission was to protect the nasa space

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shuttle they were sitting on the launch

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pad in florida

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they would patrol the waters off the

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coast of florida looking out for

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potential terrorist attacks or other

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attempts to sabotage the upcoming

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it was late in the evening heading into

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the morning on october 25th

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1989. the uss memphis was cruising at a

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depth of around 500 feet

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the mission had been standard until the

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submarine suddenly started to experience

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problems with their electronics in fact

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more than just problems the witness

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would claim that the ship was

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malfunctioning altogether

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and that the tanks were blowing and

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navigation abilities and communications

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had become totally lost

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a decision was made to bring the

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submarine to a stop so that they could

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attempt to get a handle on just what was

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happening however when the controls in

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the reactor began to malfunction the

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captain ordered it shut down and for the

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crew to surface immediately

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switching to diesel engines when they

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did so

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when the uss memphis broke to the

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surface of the water the witness went

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immediately to his watch station when he

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looked out at the night sky it was

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glowing red like a neon sign

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moments later he watched as a large

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inverted v-shaped object appeared on the

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port side of the submarine

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along with his superior officer and the

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captain they used a laser range finder

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to estimate that they were about 650

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feet from the nearest point of this

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strange v-shaped craft with the furthest

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point being a little over 3 000 feet

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away

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this suggested to them that the object

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was around half a mile across

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they could see that it was circling

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around the submarine as it passed

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overhead the electronics began to

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malfunction and go haywire

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the red glow was clearly coming from the

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underside of this craft lighting up the

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water below which appeared to rise

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almost a foot as the object passed over

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the object then came to a sudden stop

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hanging motionless for several seconds

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causing the entire sky to shine a bright

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then without warning it moved off at

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tremendous speed and disappeared

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at the same time the electronics

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returned to working order except the

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communications and sonar which appeared

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to be permanently damaged

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after the captain ordered a systems

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check they returned to the reactor power

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and set out back on their patrol

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after they were moving through the water

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once more the captain told the witness

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and the executive officer to join him in

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the wardroom

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ultimately the captain would tell them

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that they should not speak about this

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until he had a chance to report it to

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the commander submarine fleet

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strangely when they reached port around

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seven hours later the witnesses were

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taken into protective custody

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it was around three hours later when an

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officer from the air force arrived to

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speak with the men

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unbelievably to all three of them they

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were informed by this officer that they

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had witnessed a quote exploding weather

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satellite

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perhaps even more suspicious certainly

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according to the witness was that every

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single person on the crew of the uss

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memphis at the time of the incident

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after having served around four years

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together were suddenly transferred to

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completely new assignments without any

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explanation

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even the captain was transferred from

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the mission

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the main witness remained quiet about

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the incident for several years

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eventually reporting it to researchers

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when he had retired from active duty

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according to researcher and writer frank

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joseph the official record history of

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the uss memphis states only that the

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submarine was underway for a dependence

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cruise in october 1989

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all other references to that cruise

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including the events of the 24th and

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25th had been

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going back in time just a bit during a

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patrol mission of the second world war

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in march of 1944 the crew of a german

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submarine the

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u-629 encountered an apparent

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otherworldly object while in the bay of

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biscay in the north atlantic

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the vessel had just surfaced when the

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radar operator noticed something

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approaching their location through the

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air at incredible pace

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the first crew member to see this

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reported the object to lieutenant hans

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helmuth bucks who was in the conning

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tower he was about to raise the alarm

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and get his crew to their stations when

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the object was suddenly directly over

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them

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as the crew looked on they could see a

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disc shaped craft with white yellow and

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red blinking lights they weren't certain

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if the lights were some kind of coded

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message or simply incidental

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the craft though remained overhead

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showing no obvious signs of aggression

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they contemplated responding with their

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own lights but bugs declined to do so

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the object was around 40 feet above and

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remain so for about five minutes

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after this it suddenly disappeared into

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the distance

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although they weren't certain bugs and

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his crew assumed the object was some

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kind of secret allied aircraft possibly

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used to locate their position

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incidentally the u-629 was sunk on june

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7 1944 in the english channel as they

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attempted to launch an attack on allied

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ships

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all on board lost their lives

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another incident occurred on november 12

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1972 when a norwegian patrol boat off

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the coast of bergen in sonif george

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noticed what they thought was a russian

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submarine on their sonar scope

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they immediately notified the norwegian

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navy who responded by sending several

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vessels

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including battleships aircraft carriers

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and submarines

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part of the response was to launch

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several sea king helicopters which would

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drop depth charges in the region of the

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ocean where the signals had been picked

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up

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however as they did so they each begin

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to experience problems with their

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instruments and other electronic

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equipment

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they would return to their ship

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essentially crippled and unable to fully

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operate

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in their place several fighter jets were

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launched to patrol the area from the

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skies

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however they experienced almost

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identical issues

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realizing that the quote russian

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submarine was no longer in the area a

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blockade of sorts was set up in order to

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prevent whatever the underwater vehicle

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was from escaping into the vastness of

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the atlantic ocean

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this blockade remained while intricate

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underwater searches took place

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all of which proved to be unfruitful

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then two weeks later things changed

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on the morning of november 26th the

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object was picked up again and what's

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more it appeared as though it was

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attempting to sneak out of the mouth of

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sonic fort and into the atlantic ocean

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the norwegian navy moved quickly

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dropping depth charges in the area where

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the object had been picked up

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a short time later the vehicle surfaced

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however it didn't take long for those at

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the scene to realize that the object was

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not a russian submarine

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instead what they witnessed was a large

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cigar-shaped craft completely different

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from anything any of the crew had ever

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seen before

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one of the ships would even open fire on

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the object

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followed by torpedoes launched from the

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submarine beneath the water

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however the barrage of firepower

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appeared to inflict no damage at all to

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the strange object

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it remained on the surface for several

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moments as if surveying the scene before

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it disappeared under the water

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as soon as it was out of sight it

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vanished from all radar and sonar

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screens

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the norwegian navy would ultimately

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track the strange object yet again on

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the surface of the water

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they immediately launched an attack once

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more coming from destroyers submarines

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and from the air

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however the craft simply continued on

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its way unscathed and apparently

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unconcerned by the barrage of military

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fire

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it would eventually submerge and

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disappear from sonar yet again this

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would be the last time the norwegian

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navy would encounter the object but it

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wasn't the last time they'd investigated

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shortly after the incident they would

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send deep sea divers down to spot where

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they believed they had identified

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something strange on the seabed near to

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where the original incident took place

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the divers would observe strange tracks

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on the seabed as if a underwater tank

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had made its way through the area

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one of the divers would state that

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whatever had made the tracks was quote

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completely foreign to our technological

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capabilities

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end quote

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several events occurred in 1968 that

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while not directly involving ufos on the

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surface there were mysteries about these

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00:17:02,829 --> 00:16:59,920
events that could leave one wondering

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the first involved the israeli submarine

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dakar on january 9th the dakar left

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portsmouth in england

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the captain of the dakar was major

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yaakov ra annan

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and it was his job to oversee the

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performance of the newly acquired

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submarine

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by january 23rd the dakar entered the

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aegean sea several days earlier than

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expected

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they reported their arrival to the naval

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headquarters in tel aviv

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and then fell strangely silent

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the next time there was any kind of

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communication from the dakar was on

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january 27th when an apparent distress

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call was detected on the frequency of

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its emergency buoy

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it was received by a radio station in

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nicosia of cyprus

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a search of the area somewhere to the

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southeast of cyprus went on for several

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00:18:03,990 --> 00:18:01,120
days before being abandoned

430
00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:04,000
according to israeli officials the jakar

431
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was involved in crash diving tests and

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it sunk as a result of mechanical

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failure

434
00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:14,000
according to the report the dakar dove

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past her maximum depth which likely

436
00:18:21,909 --> 00:18:19,039
caused a rupture to the hull

437
00:18:23,510 --> 00:18:21,919
as the hole collapsed the emergency buoy

438
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was released

439
00:18:29,750 --> 00:18:26,960
three decades later the crippled vessel

440
00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:29,760
was discovered on the seabed between

441
00:18:34,230 --> 00:18:31,840
crate and cyprus

442
00:18:37,990 --> 00:18:34,240
the vessel was on her side with a

443
00:18:40,870 --> 00:18:38,000
conning tower essentially snapped off

444
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the stern had also come away and laid a

445
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short distance from the main hull

446
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it has been theorized that the dakar

447
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went down on either the 24th or 25th of

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january shortly after its last

449
00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,440
transmission to tel aviv headquarters

450
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at around the same time on the morning

451
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of the 25th just before 8 am the french

452
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:04,240
submarine minerv notified its air escort

453
00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,039
that they were due to dock in toulon at

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around 9 00 am that morning they would

455
00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:11,760
never arrive

456
00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,400
somewhere approximately 25 nautical

457
00:19:20,230 --> 00:19:17,120
miles off the french coast the vessel

458
00:19:22,950 --> 00:19:20,240
seemingly vanished into thin air

459
00:19:25,510 --> 00:19:22,960
even stranger there was no sign of

460
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,520
anything unusual reported by the air

461
00:19:29,190 --> 00:19:27,039
escort

462
00:19:32,789 --> 00:19:29,200
several searches were carried out over

463
00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:32,799
the years however even up until today no

464
00:19:40,070 --> 00:19:35,440
wreckage or signs of a final resting

465
00:19:42,470 --> 00:19:40,080
place for the minerv has ever been found

466
00:19:45,190 --> 00:19:42,480
furthermore there is no definitive

467
00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:45,200
explanation as to what happened that day

468
00:19:49,590 --> 00:19:47,760
off the south coast of france

469
00:19:52,150 --> 00:19:49,600
there have been several theories put

470
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:52,160
forward such as a collision or

471
00:19:57,270 --> 00:19:54,720
structural damage but a collision with

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00:19:59,590 --> 00:19:57,280
what remains a mystery

473
00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:59,600
in short the disappearance of the

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00:20:05,510 --> 00:20:02,240
submarine at around the same time as the

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loss of another submarine truly poses

476
00:20:10,710 --> 00:20:07,440
many questions

477
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:10,720
once again ufo researcher frank joseph

478
00:20:15,909 --> 00:20:12,720
would highlight several sightings of

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strange objects witnessed in the skies

480
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:19,120
in proximity to the location and times

481
00:20:26,470 --> 00:20:23,760
of both the dakar and minerv incidents

482
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following a radioing of position from

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the united states submarine the uss

484
00:20:35,750 --> 00:20:32,960
scorpion on may 22nd 1968

485
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:35,760
all contact was lost and the submarine

486
00:20:41,909 --> 00:20:38,400
seemingly disappeared

487
00:20:43,510 --> 00:20:41,919
on board was a crew of 99

488
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,520
although the crippled submarine was

489
00:20:49,350 --> 00:20:46,480
eventually located there was no clues as

490
00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,360
to what might have caused the sinking

491
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:51,840
given that commander francis slattery

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had signed off his last message by

493
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stating he was going to quote begin

494
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,360
surveillance of the soviets end quote it

495
00:21:03,110 --> 00:21:01,039
was at first suspected that the

496
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submarine had come under attack from the

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russian navy

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00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:06,799
however the fact that they were too far

499
00:21:11,990 --> 00:21:09,120
away and that there was no evidence of

500
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an explosion amid the wreckage external

501
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,280
or internal this had to be ruled out

502
00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:17,679
ultimately the us navy's inquiry into

503
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the incident stated that what caused the

504
00:21:26,149 --> 00:21:23,840
uss scorpion to sink quote cannot be

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ascertained from the evidence now

506
00:21:28,950 --> 00:21:27,360
available

507
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end quote

508
00:21:34,549 --> 00:21:32,000
once more frank joseph points to another

509
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,559
ufo sighting that coincided with the

510
00:21:40,470 --> 00:21:37,440
loss of the uss scorpion over sherman

511
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:40,480
oaks california at around 11 a.m on the

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00:21:46,149 --> 00:21:43,039
day in question two local residents

513
00:21:47,909 --> 00:21:46,159
witnessed a disc shaped craft moving

514
00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:47,919
across the sky

515
00:21:52,789 --> 00:21:50,320
however on this occasion there was yet

516
00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:52,799
another sighting that only came to light

517
00:21:57,909 --> 00:21:55,840
in the early 21st century

518
00:22:00,630 --> 00:21:57,919
according to an incident reported to the

519
00:22:04,390 --> 00:22:00,640
national ufo reporting center in march

520
00:22:07,190 --> 00:22:04,400
of 2002 a witness on board the hyades

521
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:07,200
vessel experienced a bizarre incident

522
00:22:10,630 --> 00:22:09,280
shortly after the loss of the uss

523
00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:10,640
scorpion

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00:22:15,430 --> 00:22:13,600
in fact according to the report the ship

525
00:22:18,310 --> 00:22:15,440
had been sent to the region in an

526
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:18,320
attempt to locate the scorpion

527
00:22:23,270 --> 00:22:20,640
according to a witness the last known

528
00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:23,280
location of the scorpion was just off

529
00:22:29,430 --> 00:22:26,960
the azore islands in the atlantic ocean

530
00:22:31,029 --> 00:22:29,440
as they were nearby they got the call to

531
00:22:33,029 --> 00:22:31,039
head to the region

532
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:33,039
they would search the area for three

533
00:22:38,870 --> 00:22:35,600
full days and nights however on the

534
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:38,880
second night something strange happened

535
00:22:43,990 --> 00:22:40,880
as they were moving their searchlights

536
00:22:45,590 --> 00:22:44,000
over the waters an object reflected in

537
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,600
the searchlight

538
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:47,760
the ship immediately turned towards the

539
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:50,880
object however it was unable to locate

540
00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:52,480
it again

541
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,520
in later years the witness learned that

542
00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,679
some had actually seen this strange

543
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:59,120
object

544
00:23:05,909 --> 00:23:01,520
and it had mysteriously lifted off the

545
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:05,919
water and disappeared into the skies

546
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:08,640
and this lifting into the skies is what

547
00:23:14,630 --> 00:23:11,760
brings us to another fascinating account

548
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:14,640
by a former navy serviceman who went

549
00:23:20,390 --> 00:23:17,120
public for the very first time at the

550
00:23:23,110 --> 00:23:20,400
national press club in 2001 during the

551
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,120
disclosure project event in washington

552
00:23:28,230 --> 00:23:25,600
dc my name is dan willis

553
00:23:30,710 --> 00:23:28,240
i was in the united states navy i held a

554
00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:30,720
top secret crypto level 14 extra

555
00:23:34,390 --> 00:23:33,120
sensitive material handling security

556
00:23:36,549 --> 00:23:34,400
clearance

557
00:23:39,430 --> 00:23:36,559
i worked in the code room at the naval

558
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:39,440
communications station in san francisco

559
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:42,880
in 1969 i received a priority message

560
00:23:48,830 --> 00:23:45,279
from a ship near alaska

561
00:23:53,029 --> 00:23:48,840
that was classified as secret the ship

562
00:23:55,590 --> 00:23:53,039
reported emerging out of the ocean

563
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:55,600
near port bow a

564
00:23:59,990 --> 00:23:57,520
brightly glowing

565
00:24:01,350 --> 00:24:00,000
reddish orange elliptical object

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approximately

567
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:03,760
70 feet in diameter emerged out of the

568
00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,640
water shot into space

569
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traveling at about

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00:24:14,230 --> 00:24:11,039
7 000 miles per hour

571
00:24:16,830 --> 00:24:14,240
this was tracked on ship's radar and

572
00:24:19,590 --> 00:24:16,840
substantiated years later i worked at

573
00:24:22,789 --> 00:24:19,600
the naval electronic engineering center

574
00:24:24,950 --> 00:24:22,799
in san diego for 13 years the

575
00:24:26,870 --> 00:24:24,960
co-worker who i worked with worked at

576
00:24:28,390 --> 00:24:26,880
the norad facility

577
00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:28,400
when he first started working at the

578
00:24:33,669 --> 00:24:31,200
facility he noticed objects going on the

579
00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,679
screens to track everything out in space

580
00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,200
and in the air

581
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:37,520
objects going off the scale doing

582
00:24:44,149 --> 00:24:41,039
wide-angle turns when he inquired

583
00:24:45,750 --> 00:24:44,159
his older supervisor advised him that

584
00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:45,760
quote it was just a visit from one of

585
00:24:50,149 --> 00:24:48,159
our little friends i thought this little

586
00:24:52,230 --> 00:24:50,159
unusual

587
00:24:54,789 --> 00:24:52,240
these statements are true and willing to

588
00:24:56,460 --> 00:24:54,799
testify under oath before congress

589
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thank you

590
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,350
what's up guys ryan dropping in to wish

591
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:06,000
you all a very happy halloween season

592
00:25:11,350 --> 00:25:08,080
and what better way to celebrate than

593
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:11,360
with jim harold's campfire podcast with

594
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:14,240
over 500 episodes of campfire you'll

595
00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:16,880
hear stories that will bend your reality

596
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:19,440
and leave you truly spooked

597
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:21,760
the concept is pretty simple

598
00:25:27,510 --> 00:25:24,720
jim talks to regular folks about strange

599
00:25:30,549 --> 00:25:27,520
stuff that happens to them and yes that

600
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:30,559
includes ufos and uaps along with

601
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:33,840
cryptids and of course ghosts

602
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:36,799
now not all the stories are horrifying

603
00:25:42,070 --> 00:25:39,440
some are pretty heartwarming like a

604
00:25:44,549 --> 00:25:42,080
visit from a past loved one or a

605
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:44,559
peaceful near-death experience

606
00:25:50,470 --> 00:25:47,760
regardless they are true and fascinating

607
00:25:53,669 --> 00:25:50,480
stories as told by ordinary people

608
00:25:56,710 --> 00:25:53,679
who've had extraordinary experiences

609
00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:56,720
so pull up a log and tune in to jim

610
00:26:02,549 --> 00:25:59,760
harold's campfire on apple podcasts

611
00:26:05,430 --> 00:26:02,559
spotify or wherever you listen to

612
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:05,440
somewhere in the skies and remember

613
00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:13,510
this brings us to another very

614
00:26:19,510 --> 00:26:17,200
interesting military uso encounter which

615
00:26:21,110 --> 00:26:19,520
had been previously hushed up by the

616
00:26:23,430 --> 00:26:21,120
royal air force

617
00:26:25,430 --> 00:26:23,440
but was revealed in documents made

618
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:25,440
available to the public

619
00:26:29,430 --> 00:26:27,840
according to the documents in july of

620
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,440
1977

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00:26:35,990 --> 00:26:32,320
flight lieutenant a.m wood who was based

622
00:26:38,710 --> 00:26:36,000
at raf bulmore in northumberland stated

623
00:26:41,590 --> 00:26:38,720
that he could see quote bright objects

624
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:41,600
hanging over the north sea end quote

625
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:43,520
wood estimated that the objects were

626
00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:45,600
around three miles off the coast of

627
00:26:50,950 --> 00:26:48,400
northeast england and at an approximate

628
00:26:53,350 --> 00:26:50,960
height of five thousand feet

629
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,360
he further described them as being quote

630
00:26:59,269 --> 00:26:56,159
luminous round and four to five times

631
00:27:00,870 --> 00:26:59,279
larger than a whirlwind helicopter end

632
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:00,880
quote

633
00:27:04,950 --> 00:27:02,640
wood's report was apparently

634
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:04,960
corroborated by two officers who were

635
00:27:10,710 --> 00:27:08,240
stationed at a picket post on the base

636
00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:10,720
they claimed they to observe the strange

637
00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:13,440
objects and watch them for over 90

638
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,799
minutes

639
00:27:20,389 --> 00:27:16,799
furthermore the objects were also

640
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:20,399
detected on the base's radar systems

641
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:22,559
wood was described in the reports as a

642
00:27:27,750 --> 00:27:25,760
quote reliable and sober witness

643
00:27:29,750 --> 00:27:27,760
the incident was kept from the larger

644
00:27:32,470 --> 00:27:29,760
population until the freedom of

645
00:27:34,389 --> 00:27:32,480
information act forced the release into

646
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:34,399
the public domain

647
00:27:39,510 --> 00:27:37,039
fourteen years prior to the north sea

648
00:27:42,230 --> 00:27:39,520
incident a short distance away in the

649
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:42,240
north atlantic was another strange

650
00:27:46,230 --> 00:27:43,520
sighting

651
00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:46,240
according to author walter n webb a

652
00:27:51,029 --> 00:27:48,080
lieutenant who served in the british

653
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:51,039
royal navy witnessed a ufo that appeared

654
00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,679
out of nowhere above their fleet

655
00:27:58,149 --> 00:27:55,919
before it plunged into the depths of the

656
00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:58,159
north atlantic ocean

657
00:28:03,669 --> 00:28:01,679
the incident allegedly happened in 1963

658
00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,679
off the coast of norway

659
00:28:09,510 --> 00:28:05,919
the story was told to webb two decades

660
00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:09,520
later in 1984 by a former lieutenant who

661
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,480
went by the pseudonym tom preston

662
00:28:17,669 --> 00:28:14,799
preston was only 20 years old at the

663
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:17,679
time but was an experienced radar sonar

664
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:20,880
operator and navigator he stated that he

665
00:28:26,230 --> 00:28:23,200
was part of a royal navy fleet on

666
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:26,240
exercises when out of nowhere a large

667
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,279
object descended on them

668
00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:31,279
judging by how suddenly it appeared on

669
00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:33,200
the radar screen it must have been

670
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:36,399
moving at great speeds before stopping

671
00:28:42,070 --> 00:28:39,279
almost instantly according to preston

672
00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:42,080
other ships in the area were contacted

673
00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:44,320
and they too confirmed the object to be

674
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:46,240
on their screens

675
00:28:51,990 --> 00:28:49,919
so a radar malfunction was ruled out

676
00:28:54,310 --> 00:28:52,000
the object appeared to be monitoring the

677
00:28:57,430 --> 00:28:54,320
small fleet for several moments before

678
00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,440
plunging under the surface of the water

679
00:29:02,149 --> 00:28:59,440
during this jets that had been scrambled

680
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,159
to the fleet's assistance approached the

681
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:04,960
ship's sonar detectors also picked up on

682
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:07,440
the now submerged object

683
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:09,440
the object however was moving at such

684
00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:12,960
speed that they soon lost the craft

685
00:29:17,350 --> 00:29:15,520
preston stated that later that day he

686
00:29:19,909 --> 00:29:17,360
was summoned to speak with a senior

687
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:19,919
officer on board the ship where he was

688
00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,080
reminded that he had signed the official

689
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,720
secrets act and was not to talk about

690
00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:27,760
what he'd seen preston also noticed that

691
00:29:32,549 --> 00:29:30,640
when he returned to duty a new log book

692
00:29:35,830 --> 00:29:32,559
had replaced the one they'd been using

693
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:35,840
before which was incidentally nowhere to

694
00:29:39,510 --> 00:29:37,760
be found

695
00:29:43,430 --> 00:29:39,520
in a report alleged to have been

696
00:29:46,470 --> 00:29:43,440
obtained from declassified cia files on

697
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,480
soviet ufo sightings there came a report

698
00:29:51,029 --> 00:29:48,480
from a russian merchant sailor who

699
00:29:53,830 --> 00:29:51,039
claimed to have spotted a strange craft

700
00:29:56,149 --> 00:29:53,840
hovering over the mediterranean sea in

701
00:29:59,190 --> 00:29:56,159
june of 1984.

702
00:30:02,549 --> 00:29:59,200
the seaman alexander globa was aboard

703
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:02,559
the soviet tanker gory when at 4 pm one

704
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:05,200
evening he witnessed a strange object

705
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:07,520
that he later said reminded him of an

706
00:30:12,230 --> 00:30:10,159
upside down frying pan

707
00:30:14,950 --> 00:30:12,240
while what he perceived to be the top of

708
00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,960
the craft was flat the underside had a

709
00:30:19,909 --> 00:30:17,440
round shape to it and the whole craft

710
00:30:22,470 --> 00:30:19,919
had a bright metallic shine

711
00:30:24,710 --> 00:30:22,480
upon closer inspection of the craft

712
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,720
globus stated that the bottom section

713
00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:26,559
appeared to consist of two separate

714
00:30:31,750 --> 00:30:29,600
circles that were rotating in opposite

715
00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:31,760
directions to each other

716
00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:33,760
globa attempted to get the craft's

717
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:36,799
attention by using a signal projector

718
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:38,799
but the object seemed to suddenly move

719
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,520
upwards as if it were riding a wave that

720
00:30:46,549 --> 00:30:43,600
couldn't be seen before it eventually

721
00:30:48,710 --> 00:30:46,559
ascended quickly into the sky

722
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,720
global followed the craft as it made its

723
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:51,120
way through the clouds stating that it

724
00:30:56,310 --> 00:30:53,600
suddenly quote flared up and was then

725
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:56,320
gone in an instant

726
00:31:02,470 --> 00:30:58,960
a former russian navy officer turned

727
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,480
respected ufo researcher vladimir azaza

728
00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:05,360
would claim that over 50 percent of the

729
00:31:12,310 --> 00:31:09,840
reports in russia of usos and ufos were

730
00:31:14,149 --> 00:31:12,320
connected with the oceans with many

731
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:14,159
other sightings involving the great

732
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,039
lakes in the region as well

733
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:19,200
another harrowing event in the files

734
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:22,480
stated that in 1951 a soviet submarine

735
00:31:29,269 --> 00:31:25,519
encountered a massive underwater object

736
00:31:32,470 --> 00:31:29,279
which measured over 250 meters long and

737
00:31:34,710 --> 00:31:32,480
was allegedly rising from the depths as

738
00:31:37,190 --> 00:31:34,720
it headed towards the shore

739
00:31:39,269 --> 00:31:37,200
according to the report the captain

740
00:31:41,669 --> 00:31:39,279
actually ordered depth charges to be

741
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:41,679
dropped on the object which seemed to

742
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:44,320
have no effect but which nevertheless

743
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:46,880
caused it to stop its ascent change

744
00:31:52,630 --> 00:31:49,760
course and head out to deeper waters

745
00:31:55,029 --> 00:31:52,640
where it eventually disappeared

746
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,039
another more recent report in the files

747
00:32:00,389 --> 00:31:58,080
stated that in the spring of 2008 a

748
00:32:02,630 --> 00:32:00,399
russian nuclear submarine on a mission

749
00:32:06,149 --> 00:32:02,640
in the pacific ocean suddenly picked up

750
00:32:08,230 --> 00:32:06,159
six unidentified objects on radar

751
00:32:11,110 --> 00:32:08,240
they initially attempted to lose the

752
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:11,120
objects by changing their course however

753
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:13,039
when the objects continued to follow

754
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:15,519
them the captain made the decision to

755
00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:16,960
surface

756
00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:19,760
unbelievably the six objects rose to the

757
00:32:26,310 --> 00:32:22,799
surface also breaking from the water and

758
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,320
shooting off into the air

759
00:32:30,549 --> 00:32:28,159
it wasn't until these stories out of

760
00:32:33,029 --> 00:32:30,559
russia came to light that someone else

761
00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:33,039
in the united states would come forward

762
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:35,519
with an interesting story to tell about

763
00:32:42,950 --> 00:32:39,840
what was referred to as a fast mover

764
00:32:45,269 --> 00:32:42,960
marc d'antonio has a degree in astronomy

765
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:45,279
and has worked as the mutual ufo

766
00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:48,480
network's chief photo and video analyst

767
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:52,480
he's also the ceo of fx models a model

768
00:32:57,990 --> 00:32:54,640
making and special effects company

769
00:33:00,230 --> 00:32:58,000
specializing in digital physical models

770
00:33:03,269 --> 00:33:00,240
he has done extensive work in the film

771
00:33:05,110 --> 00:33:03,279
and television arena including contracts

772
00:33:07,830 --> 00:33:05,120
with the us navy

773
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:07,840
one of those contracts would lead to him

774
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,240
being invited aboard a navy submarine

775
00:33:14,950 --> 00:33:12,240
during an exercise

776
00:33:17,029 --> 00:33:14,960
it would be an experience that d'antonio

777
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,039
would never forget

778
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:19,279
you know it was decades ago

779
00:33:22,830 --> 00:33:20,640
when i was

780
00:33:25,590 --> 00:33:22,840
allowed to go on a nuclear

781
00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:25,600
submarine and visit with the crew

782
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:27,679
and go to sea

783
00:33:30,549 --> 00:33:28,559
this

784
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,559
event was wonderful and i've always said

785
00:33:34,149 --> 00:33:32,480
it's the most fun i've ever had being

786
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:34,159
seasick

787
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,120
well

788
00:33:39,909 --> 00:33:37,200
this trip turned out to be rather

789
00:33:41,590 --> 00:33:39,919
eventful rather than uneventful

790
00:33:42,870 --> 00:33:41,600
it turned out that

791
00:33:46,470 --> 00:33:42,880
once at c

792
00:33:47,509 --> 00:33:46,480
um i actually became seasick and it was

793
00:33:49,350 --> 00:33:47,519
usually

794
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:49,360
the case that the subs on the surface it

795
00:33:54,230 --> 00:33:52,080
rocks and rolls like you can't believe

796
00:33:56,470 --> 00:33:54,240
after all it's effectively like a large

797
00:33:57,990 --> 00:33:56,480
pipe with end caps on it right so

798
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,000
it rocks and rolls

799
00:34:02,710 --> 00:34:00,320
and so i became seasick

800
00:34:04,950 --> 00:34:02,720
and during that time

801
00:34:06,549 --> 00:34:04,960
i visited the

802
00:34:09,030 --> 00:34:06,559
individual

803
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:09,040
who passed as the doctor on the boat

804
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:10,960
and he was a kid

805
00:34:14,950 --> 00:34:12,320
way younger than me

806
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:14,960
and he gave me some medication actually

807
00:34:18,389 --> 00:34:17,280
was a patch that he gave me to put on

808
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:18,399
when

809
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:20,560
i was trying to overcome my seasickness

810
00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:22,320
i went over and sat

811
00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:24,159
in the sonar

812
00:34:28,149 --> 00:34:26,720
shack it's called now you have the the

813
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,159
folks that steer the boat you've got the

814
00:34:32,349 --> 00:34:30,800
two gentlemen that drive the boat you

815
00:34:34,389 --> 00:34:32,359
have the first officer or the

816
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:34,399
ex-executive officer

817
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:35,679
the captain

818
00:34:39,190 --> 00:34:36,560
um

819
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:39,200
and they're in the main control room of

820
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,240
the boat

821
00:34:44,790 --> 00:34:43,119
and off to the side

822
00:34:46,710 --> 00:34:44,800
if you're looking forward from the stern

823
00:34:47,990 --> 00:34:46,720
off to the right side

824
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:48,000
on the other side of what's called the

825
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:50,399
chart table there's a row of screens and

826
00:34:53,750 --> 00:34:51,839
those are the sonar screens and they

827
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:53,760
they line the uh starboard side of the

828
00:34:57,750 --> 00:34:55,839
boat which is the right as seen from the

829
00:34:59,829 --> 00:34:57,760
back looking forward

830
00:35:01,829 --> 00:34:59,839
and so i uh sat down on one of the empty

831
00:35:03,270 --> 00:35:01,839
seats after asking the kid running the

832
00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:03,280
sauna if i could sit there and says yes

833
00:35:06,950 --> 00:35:05,520
sir you may sit there right okay

834
00:35:08,470 --> 00:35:06,960
i didn't talk to him because he was busy

835
00:35:09,670 --> 00:35:08,480
looking at the sonar

836
00:35:10,870 --> 00:35:09,680
tracking things

837
00:35:13,190 --> 00:35:10,880
now

838
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:13,200
it's true that once you submerge the

839
00:35:18,630 --> 00:35:14,079
boat

840
00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:18,640
sitting in your room or a place

841
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:20,800
of residence you don't feel much you

842
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,960
feel the vibrations uh you feel

843
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:25,440
vibration coming through your feet

844
00:35:29,510 --> 00:35:28,160
all right but you don't really feel any

845
00:35:31,430 --> 00:35:29,520
anything else you don't feel the rocking

846
00:35:33,750 --> 00:35:31,440
and rolling anymore as long as you go

847
00:35:35,349 --> 00:35:33,760
deep enough and the boat felt no rocking

848
00:35:36,550 --> 00:35:35,359
and rolling okay we'll put it that way

849
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,560
so

850
00:35:39,430 --> 00:35:38,160
as we're going along

851
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:39,440
uh the

852
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,000
kid on the sonar the tech is

853
00:35:46,630 --> 00:35:44,400
listening and looking at uh the screen

854
00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:46,640
which is called the waterfall

855
00:35:50,950 --> 00:35:49,200
uh sonar uh i couldn't read it i mean i

856
00:35:51,829 --> 00:35:50,960
i did take some lessons on how to read

857
00:35:53,670 --> 00:35:51,839
it but

858
00:35:54,630 --> 00:35:53,680
uh very inept and i

859
00:35:55,990 --> 00:35:54,640
wouldn't

860
00:35:57,510 --> 00:35:56,000
even think that i could read it and i

861
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:57,520
wouldn't try

862
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:59,040
and uh

863
00:36:02,790 --> 00:36:00,480
so i'm sitting there and i start to

864
00:36:04,230 --> 00:36:02,800
close my eyes because the

865
00:36:06,710 --> 00:36:04,240
patch is starting to do its work you

866
00:36:09,510 --> 00:36:06,720
know it was some period of time since

867
00:36:11,349 --> 00:36:09,520
the patch i got put on and as i'm

868
00:36:14,150 --> 00:36:11,359
as i'm sitting there

869
00:36:15,670 --> 00:36:14,160
and starting to actually doze off

870
00:36:17,670 --> 00:36:15,680
all you hear is the noise inside the

871
00:36:19,030 --> 00:36:17,680
boat and it starts to become echoey in

872
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:19,040
your head as you start to fall asleep

873
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,960
right

874
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,400
and that's the thing about these

875
00:36:26,310 --> 00:36:24,160
submarines they

876
00:36:27,829 --> 00:36:26,320
they're very loud inside you hear high

877
00:36:29,829 --> 00:36:27,839
pressure air you know

878
00:36:32,470 --> 00:36:29,839
you hear people talking

879
00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,480
okay and it all blends into one

880
00:36:36,550 --> 00:36:34,720
white noise pattern in the background

881
00:36:38,550 --> 00:36:36,560
now the pride of the navy is that that

882
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,560
sound never makes it out

883
00:36:43,109 --> 00:36:41,200
of the boat's hull and that's the pride

884
00:36:45,910 --> 00:36:43,119
of the navy okay they've gotten that

885
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:45,920
down to a science well anyway

886
00:36:50,550 --> 00:36:46,960
as

887
00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,560
i sat there dozing off all of a sudden

888
00:36:55,190 --> 00:36:52,160
and it could have been some time after i

889
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:55,200
dozed off i don't know uh the tech on

890
00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:56,400
the sonar

891
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:59,599
yells khan sonar khan sonar fast mover

892
00:37:04,230 --> 00:37:00,880
fast mover

893
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:04,240
uh and i jolt awake

894
00:37:08,310 --> 00:37:06,640
my seasickness is gone probably

895
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,320
because of the adrenaline i was now

896
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,560
feeling because to me a fast mover meant

897
00:37:13,349 --> 00:37:11,920
the torpedo

898
00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,359
and i was immediately regretting my

899
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:15,760
decision to go for this quote-unquote

900
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:16,720
ride

901
00:37:19,589 --> 00:37:18,720
on a submarine

902
00:37:21,190 --> 00:37:19,599
when

903
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:21,200
the fact was

904
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:23,119
you know i felt like i was gonna die out

905
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:24,320
here now

906
00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:26,720
well the executive officer known as the

907
00:37:30,470 --> 00:37:29,200
xo comes around and he says what do you

908
00:37:31,510 --> 00:37:30,480
have

909
00:37:33,990 --> 00:37:31,520
and

910
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:34,000
i'm sitting to the left of the kid

911
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:35,520
at his station

912
00:37:39,190 --> 00:37:37,200
he's of course to the right of me and

913
00:37:40,870 --> 00:37:39,200
he's looking to the right of him at the

914
00:37:42,710 --> 00:37:40,880
executive officer who's looking down at

915
00:37:44,390 --> 00:37:42,720
him from a standing position

916
00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:44,400
so the kids looking up at him and

917
00:37:46,150 --> 00:37:45,359
telling him

918
00:37:48,310 --> 00:37:46,160
uh

919
00:37:50,470 --> 00:37:48,320
things and i was you know behind the

920
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:50,480
kids heads basically so i couldn't hear

921
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:51,760
everything he said

922
00:37:55,109 --> 00:37:54,400
because of that noise i told you about

923
00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:55,119
but

924
00:37:58,310 --> 00:37:56,720
he gave the executive officer the

925
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,320
bearing and the range

926
00:38:01,750 --> 00:38:00,160
it was a very short

927
00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:01,760
short term

928
00:38:06,390 --> 00:38:04,480
trace i guess on the sonar

929
00:38:07,990 --> 00:38:06,400
and then the executive officer said well

930
00:38:09,030 --> 00:38:08,000
how fast was it moving

931
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,040
and i heard him say that because the

932
00:38:11,990 --> 00:38:11,040
excel is facing me

933
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:12,000
and

934
00:38:18,390 --> 00:38:17,040
loudly in a way that i can't

935
00:38:20,550 --> 00:38:18,400
tell you how loud he was it was very

936
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:20,560
loud because he was incredulous the kid

937
00:38:23,829 --> 00:38:21,839
actually had never seen anything like

938
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:23,839
this before you could tell he held his

939
00:38:28,310 --> 00:38:25,440
hands out to his side

940
00:38:30,550 --> 00:38:28,320
and he went several hundred knots sir

941
00:38:32,790 --> 00:38:30,560
and the xo looks at the waterfall

942
00:38:33,990 --> 00:38:32,800
display the sonar screen looks at the

943
00:38:37,270 --> 00:38:34,000
kid and says

944
00:38:39,510 --> 00:38:37,280
okay he said log it and dog it

945
00:38:41,910 --> 00:38:39,520
which meant to me bury it uh log it and

946
00:38:44,390 --> 00:38:41,920
then hide it and the kid just responded

947
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:44,400
sir yes sir went back to his console and

948
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:46,960
started getting out with his work now

949
00:38:51,349 --> 00:38:48,640
look i'm a guest on this boat right i

950
00:38:53,349 --> 00:38:51,359
was invited to go for this this this uh

951
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,359
this excursion

952
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,760
and so you might

953
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:58,079
you'd be i i figured i would be forgiven

954
00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:59,599
for thinking i actually had some kind of

955
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,839
special merit being on the pope

956
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:03,760
so i got up missed a big shot that i

957
00:39:07,430 --> 00:39:05,839
thought i was and i went over to the exo

958
00:39:09,190 --> 00:39:07,440
i said xo um

959
00:39:10,710 --> 00:39:09,200
i'm i'm somewhat familiar with these

960
00:39:13,510 --> 00:39:10,720
fast movers is there anything i can help

961
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:13,520
you with he looks at me and he goes

962
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:16,640
d'antonio is that correct oh yes sir

963
00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:18,480
he says having a good trip so far ago

964
00:39:22,630 --> 00:39:20,240
yes sir he looks me right in the eye and

965
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:22,640
says let's keep it that way and he turns

966
00:39:28,710 --> 00:39:24,400
and walks away

967
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,720
okay well that put me in my place so

968
00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:30,960
i basically felt

969
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:33,200
that's just not good so i went and sat

970
00:39:36,870 --> 00:39:34,400
down

971
00:39:39,030 --> 00:39:36,880
thinking about this fast mover that we

972
00:39:40,950 --> 00:39:39,040
we well they witnessed that i basically

973
00:39:42,630 --> 00:39:40,960
was party to

974
00:39:43,589 --> 00:39:42,640
and um

975
00:39:45,430 --> 00:39:43,599
thought

976
00:39:47,270 --> 00:39:45,440
this is real stuff

977
00:39:48,069 --> 00:39:47,280
this is real

978
00:39:50,230 --> 00:39:48,079
so

979
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:50,240
i got off the boat the exo nodded and

980
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:51,839
shook my hand and said you have a good

981
00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:54,320
day now you know i said i will

982
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,320
trust me i will and uh

983
00:40:03,190 --> 00:40:01,280
that was that a few years later i had to

984
00:40:04,309 --> 00:40:03,200
do a job for the joint chiefs down in

985
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:04,319
washington

986
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:06,400
and i had an occasion to talk to one of

987
00:40:09,910 --> 00:40:08,400
the chiefs and i asked him what can you

988
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:09,920
tell me about the fast mover program

989
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,440
chief

990
00:40:15,990 --> 00:40:13,280
and he looked at me and he could have

991
00:40:18,390 --> 00:40:16,000
said i have no idea what that is or

992
00:40:20,230 --> 00:40:18,400
i don't know you tell me or

993
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,240
anything else but instead because

994
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:21,760
apparently we worked together he looked

995
00:40:25,670 --> 00:40:23,520
at me and he says um sorry mark i can't

996
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:25,680
talk about that program

997
00:40:30,390 --> 00:40:28,079
i think he probably heard

998
00:40:32,470 --> 00:40:30,400
me just stunned silence he you could

999
00:40:35,109 --> 00:40:32,480
hear my stun silence

1000
00:40:36,829 --> 00:40:35,119
and from that point forward i've known

1001
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:36,839
that usos

1002
00:40:41,349 --> 00:40:38,480
exist

1003
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:41,359
the stories of the fast movers didn't

1004
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:42,720
end there

1005
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:45,119
many others would continue to bubble to

1006
00:40:49,589 --> 00:40:46,480
the surface

1007
00:40:51,829 --> 00:40:49,599
during a 2019 podcast interview with joe

1008
00:40:54,470 --> 00:40:51,839
rogan former united states navy

1009
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:54,480
commander david fravor who had chased

1010
00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:58,319
the tic-tac ufo was told several stories

1011
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:00,720
about several dramatic fast mover

1012
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:02,880
incidents witnessed by a former

1013
00:41:09,030 --> 00:41:06,240
helicopter pilot he said he was flying

1014
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:09,040
ch-53s which is a big lift heavy lift

1015
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,640
that the marine corps uses the navy uses

1016
00:41:13,670 --> 00:41:12,079
it for certain things

1017
00:41:15,510 --> 00:41:13,680
and when they go off of for the east

1018
00:41:17,109 --> 00:41:15,520
coast they do a lot of shooting off of

1019
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:17,119
at the time it was off of puerto rico we

1020
00:41:20,630 --> 00:41:18,400
had roosevelt roads that they ended up

1021
00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:20,640
closing but he was flying out of there

1022
00:41:23,589 --> 00:41:22,240
and you know you got super clear

1023
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:23,599
caribbean water

1024
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,880
and they have these things they're

1025
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:26,480
called bqms they fly around and then

1026
00:41:29,430 --> 00:41:27,760
when they're all done because they'll

1027
00:41:31,750 --> 00:41:29,440
fly towards the ship they can track with

1028
00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:31,760
the radar and then they also do in the

1029
00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:33,520
like the ships or submarine shoot

1030
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:34,960
torpedoes they're they're called

1031
00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:36,800
telemetry rounds so they have they

1032
00:41:40,390 --> 00:41:38,480
gather all the data on what the torpedo

1033
00:41:41,670 --> 00:41:40,400
is doing underwater and then they blow

1034
00:41:43,349 --> 00:41:41,680
ballast and this thing will come to the

1035
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:43,359
surface and float and then they go pick

1036
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:44,560
them up and then they can extract all

1037
00:41:48,390 --> 00:41:46,800
the data out of them so they do it for

1038
00:41:49,430 --> 00:41:48,400
both so he said the first time they're

1039
00:41:51,030 --> 00:41:49,440
out and they're going to pick up this

1040
00:41:52,150 --> 00:41:51,040
bqm

1041
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:52,160
and those things when they're flying

1042
00:41:54,630 --> 00:41:53,280
they're done a parachute comes out and

1043
00:41:56,950 --> 00:41:54,640
they got to go they hook it up the helo

1044
00:41:57,910 --> 00:41:56,960
drops the swimmer in the water he goes

1045
00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:57,920
and hooks this whole thing up and then

1046
00:42:01,190 --> 00:41:59,119
they hoist the whole thing up and fly

1047
00:42:02,309 --> 00:42:01,200
back and then they extract the data so

1048
00:42:04,069 --> 00:42:02,319
he says he's sitting in the front you

1049
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:04,079
know in helicopters there's you know

1050
00:42:07,030 --> 00:42:05,760
ch-53 you can actually see down by your

1051
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:07,040
feet you know just like typical like you

1052
00:42:10,230 --> 00:42:08,560
got a hawaiian ride because you can see

1053
00:42:11,430 --> 00:42:10,240
when you're touching down so you got

1054
00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:11,440
really good visibility out of those

1055
00:42:13,829 --> 00:42:12,560
things you can stick your head out the

1056
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,839
window too because you're just kind of

1057
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:14,880
hanging out

1058
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:16,160
he says he's going on there and they're

1059
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:17,359
getting this thing hooked up and as he's

1060
00:42:21,270 --> 00:42:19,359
looking down you know because they're i

1061
00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:21,280
don't know what 50 feet above the water

1062
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:23,200
he sees kind of this dark mask coming up

1063
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,560
from the depths

1064
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:26,319
and they start to hoist the

1065
00:42:29,829 --> 00:42:27,680
the diver up and he's got they've got

1066
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:29,839
the bqm as they hoist it up he says and

1067
00:42:32,630 --> 00:42:30,880
he's looking at this thing going what

1068
00:42:34,710 --> 00:42:32,640
the hell is that and then it just goes

1069
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,720
back down underwater it's just like once

1070
00:42:39,030 --> 00:42:36,960
they pull the kid in the bqm out of the

1071
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:39,040
water this object descends back into the

1072
00:42:42,309 --> 00:42:41,040
depths

1073
00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:42,319
so he thinks well that was pretty weird

1074
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:44,079
so he goes out he says not too long

1075
00:42:47,829 --> 00:42:45,280
later you know a few months later he's

1076
00:42:49,589 --> 00:42:47,839
out and he's picking up a torpedo

1077
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:49,599
so he says they got the they hook the

1078
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,800
diver up on the winch and they're

1079
00:42:54,069 --> 00:42:52,319
lowering him in and as he's looking down

1080
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:54,079
he sees this big massive he goes it's

1081
00:42:56,790 --> 00:42:55,359
not a submarine he's seen submarines

1082
00:42:59,109 --> 00:42:56,800
before once you see a submarine you

1083
00:43:00,710 --> 00:42:59,119
can't confuse it with something else

1084
00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,720
this big object

1085
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:01,920
you know kind of circularly says is

1086
00:43:05,109 --> 00:43:04,000
coming up from the depths and he starts

1087
00:43:06,550 --> 00:43:05,119
screaming

1088
00:43:08,150 --> 00:43:06,560
through the intercom system to tell him

1089
00:43:10,069 --> 00:43:08,160
to pull the diver up and the diver's

1090
00:43:11,430 --> 00:43:10,079
like few feet from the water

1091
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:11,440
so they've reversed the winch and the

1092
00:43:14,550 --> 00:43:12,880
diver's thinking what the hell is going

1093
00:43:17,349 --> 00:43:14,560
on and he's getting pulled up and all of

1094
00:43:19,109 --> 00:43:17,359
a sudden uh he said the torpedo just got

1095
00:43:21,190 --> 00:43:19,119
sucked down underwater

1096
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,200
and the object just descended back down

1097
00:43:24,870 --> 00:43:23,440
into the depths and they never recovered

1098
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:24,880
the torpedo

1099
00:43:31,109 --> 00:43:27,520
well many of these uso and fast mover

1100
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,119
stories are just that stories other

1101
00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,520
cases in and around the water would come

1102
00:43:37,910 --> 00:43:35,839
to light in 2021

1103
00:43:40,710 --> 00:43:37,920
by investigative filmmaker jeremy

1104
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:40,720
corbell an investigative reporter george

1105
00:43:44,630 --> 00:43:41,680
knapp

1106
00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:44,640
one case in particular included striking

1107
00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:47,760
video of a spherical object about six

1108
00:43:52,829 --> 00:43:50,400
feet in diameter that was following the

1109
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:52,839
uss omaha for over an

1110
00:44:00,790 --> 00:43:56,079
hour the spherical object was caught on

1111
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:00,800
flare camera on july 15 2019

1112
00:44:06,069 --> 00:44:03,920
this is the actual audio in real time as

1113
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:06,079
the event was happening from the command

1114
00:44:38,230 --> 00:44:34,550
yeah we have a

1115
00:44:40,150 --> 00:44:38,240
31 knots sustained wind topside august

1116
00:44:43,430 --> 00:44:40,160
40

1117
00:44:45,829 --> 00:44:43,440
splashed mark bearing range

1118
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:45,839
whatever the spherical object was it

1119
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,720
apparently submerged into the water

1120
00:44:52,630 --> 00:44:50,480
crew members from the omaha

1121
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:52,640
attempted to find and retrieve the

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object but were unsuccessful and found

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nothing

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but this wasn't it

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there were apparently over a dozen

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spherical objects swarming the ship over

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a span of three days

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at one point the ship was completely

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surrounded by them here is additional

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audio from the command center in terms

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of what they were experiencing on radar

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od if you can write a general lat long

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where we're at

1134
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concerning that the number of contacts

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you've got if they force the speed

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leaders off them

1137
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you know i mean enroll a position to us

1138
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to make variance

1139
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:36,390
main train track may take track as best

1140
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you can

1141
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seven eight one just fed up to 46 knots

1142
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:43,200
50 knots

1143
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that one's pretty much perfectly zero

1144
00:45:55,349 --> 00:45:53,440
zero zero relative right yeah

1145
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two six three three miles

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00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,079
55 knots

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how and why jeremy corbell came into

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00:46:04,230 --> 00:46:03,119
possession of these videos has yet to be

1149
00:46:06,309 --> 00:46:04,240
revealed

1150
00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:06,319
but they were authenticated and

1151
00:46:10,790 --> 00:46:09,200
confirmed by the pentagon spokesperson

1152
00:46:13,109 --> 00:46:10,800
susan goff

1153
00:46:15,750 --> 00:46:13,119
whatever these objects were there is

1154
00:46:17,910 --> 00:46:15,760
still no explanation as to where they

1155
00:46:19,910 --> 00:46:17,920
were coming from or where they were

1156
00:46:22,790 --> 00:46:19,920
going to

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00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,800
and this leads us up to today

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with hundreds of additional uso

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00:46:29,670 --> 00:46:27,599
encounters from across the world having

1160
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:29,680
been reported throughout the decades

1161
00:46:35,670 --> 00:46:32,160
they are just as mysterious and

1162
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:35,680
prevalent as ufos in our skies

1163
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:37,440
and while it may appear that the world's

1164
00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:39,440
militaries know little about these

1165
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:42,160
aquatic phenomena the possibility that

1166
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:44,240
they know more than they have publicly

1167
00:46:49,430 --> 00:46:47,280
revealed remains

1168
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,440
from strange lights surrounding the

1169
00:46:55,910 --> 00:46:52,400
ships of christopher columbus to the ufo

1170
00:46:57,910 --> 00:46:55,920
or uso swarms happening over u.s navy

1171
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:57,920
vessels in modern day

1172
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:00,880
so many questions remain

1173
00:47:05,030 --> 00:47:03,839
what are the strange phenomena over our

1174
00:47:07,349 --> 00:47:05,040
waters

1175
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:07,359
are they a potential threat do they

1176
00:47:12,069 --> 00:47:10,720
possess intelligence to monitor us

1177
00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:12,079
and once again

1178
00:47:18,550 --> 00:47:15,440
where are they coming from and going to

1179
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:18,560
like most ufo mysteries there is likely

1180
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:22,079
no one answer to all of these cases

1181
00:47:27,270 --> 00:47:24,559
in fact many could have prosaic

1182
00:47:31,430 --> 00:47:27,280
explanations that have absolutely

1183
00:47:33,910 --> 00:47:31,440
nothing to do with ufos or usos

1184
00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:33,920
but whatever those answers may be they

1185
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,000
remain elusive

1186
00:47:41,750 --> 00:47:39,040
hidden in not so plain sight in the

1187
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:41,760
depths of our waters just as they always

1188
00:47:58,710 --> 00:47:55,430
a large portion of this episode was

1189
00:48:01,790 --> 00:47:58,720
researched and written by marcus loth it

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00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:01,800
was originally published on the website

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00:48:07,829 --> 00:48:05,200
ufoinsight.com under the title the uss

1192
00:48:10,470 --> 00:48:07,839
memphis incident and the persistent

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00:48:13,589 --> 00:48:10,480
underwater ufo presence

1194
00:48:16,230 --> 00:48:13,599
appropriate links to ufo insight and the

1195
00:48:17,829 --> 00:48:16,240
work of marcus loth can be found in the

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00:48:20,470 --> 00:48:17,839
show notes

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00:48:23,510 --> 00:48:20,480
our special thanks to ufo insight for

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00:48:26,069 --> 00:48:23,520
the collaboration on this episode

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00:48:28,549 --> 00:48:26,079
special thanks also to mark d'antonio

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00:48:33,190 --> 00:48:28,559
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00:48:35,109 --> 00:48:33,200
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00:48:37,109 --> 00:48:35,119
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00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:53,680
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